I saw the funniest thing today. There was a sign on a street post at 88th Ave and I-25 in Thornton, Co. The sign said "Become a homeowner for $500." Over the phone number on the sign there was yet another piece of paper that had this web address on it. It claimed that the paper underneath it was illegal. Does that mean that the causs.org sign is also illegal? If the first sign is illegal, then I would be sure that so would causs.org. Is this your way of taking the law into your own hands by breaking the same laws that you are trying to stop others from breaking?
OK, so I am trying to understand why you people have nothing better to do that build a website and go around "POSTING YOUR OWN SIGNS" on street corners trying to fight against the rest of the public on an issue that affects NOBODY.
I have spoken with an Adams county judge here in Thornton, CO and he said there were no laws on the books about street postings or "spam" as you call it. The only way it is illegal is if it falls off the post and hits the ground. Then it is littering. Even then, if the material is biodegradable, it has to be in excess of .5 Lbs. of material. So, where does the "It's illegal" come in on your campaign?
Also, do you people feel that it is right to try to persecute every day folks and small businesses for free enterprise? A lot of money is spent on advertising these days and a lot of small businesses are just trying to turn a profit, let alone have an advertising budget. Why don't you people do something good for the community and quit wasting everyone's time?

Glad that you see some humor in the situation.
If it bothers you all that much then take it down, that's what most folks
do after it's been disabled for a couple of days.
Checked with a county judge, did you?
Really no need for that, pull up the state laws and city codes, they're on the web.

When the spam disappears, so do the stickers.
If you're not part of the solution, then you must be part of the problem.



GreatWhite-BH (GW)
Texas Chapter - CAUSS

GW

Why do we exist?
Very simple.
Because people like YOU exist.

LAST EDITED ON 09-09-02 AT 09:59 AM (CDT)

You guys are all about as pathetic as it gets.
Listen to this everybody! These are the type of people that support this organization.
"Why do we exist? ... Because people like YOU exist." - SoOrshark.

What? Are we in third grade? That's the best you could come up with? HA!

The simple truth is that you people are not doing a service. You think that you are, and I feel sorry for you. Why don't we worry about something a little more worthwhile? Street spam, you guys are hilarious. This is a form of simple advertising. Are you guys going to go after people who put up giant billboards on highways? Are you going to go after the kid with a lemonade stand sign down the street? Are you gonna go after the old folks who put up a garage sale sign on the corner?
Here's one? How about all of those freakin' campaign signs that cludder the street medians? Now, those are an eye-sore with no real benefit to anyone.

Quit wasting people's time. What gives you the right to put your signs up advertising your website? Hippocrates!

P.S. I have never put a sign up on a street corner in my life.
"Because people like YOU exist." - SoOrshark.
Pathetic...

Rubicon,

I agree with your views on stickering, but I don't believe you when you say you've never posted a sign.

If you plant one on a street corner in my area, consider it dead, plucked, and sublimated as soon as I spot it. I won't even give you the satisfaction of an "Art Was Here" sticker.

--Art

>LAST EDITED ON 09-09-02
>AT 09:59 AM (CDT)
>>P.S. I have never put
>a sign up on a
>street corner in my life.

Either he: a.) is lying; b.) paid some high school kid to put them out for him at 2:30 in the morning; or c.) nails them up on utility poles. In any case, he's *definitely* a street spammer who has lost signs and sales due to our efforts. Good!!!

"You Put 'Em Out, I'll Pick 'Em Up."

Are you guys serious right now? I have never hung any signs on street corners. I saw this sign on the intersection where I work from this poor guy just trying to cell his house. Then I see some a-hole put their "sticker" as you call it (I call it "litter without a causs") over his sign. Did this help the problem? No. So, I figured I would visit your little website and voice my opinion. A few of you have actually voiced your insights back to my inquiries and some make sense. But, you two are just dumb-asses. You can't give me any credible debate so you have to accuse me of something that I have already said I have not done. You are the one's I call pathetic!
ELKMAN and remora : Way to go. Thanks for providing good debate on a subject you feel strongly about.
GW, Art, and havehoewilltravel : Why don't you put a little thought into that feces you drop onto your keyboard?

>So, I
>figured I would visit your
>little website and voice my
>opinion.
>GW, Art, and havehoewilltravel : Why
>don't you put a little
>thought into that feces you
>drop onto your keyboard?

Sorry; you won't bait me to participate in a childish name-calling contest. You have every right to your opinion, and I feel honored and privileged to live in a country where you can express it freely. Your opinion doesn't change mine, however - that the illegal posting of street spam is a blight upon our beautiful cities, potentially dangerous to motorists, and should be eradicated. I'm doing my part to help my community by cleaning up this trash. Perhaps you're already volunteering in your community; if not, I encourage you to find a cause you believe in and support it.

LAST EDITED ON 09-10-02 AT 09:41 AM (CDT)

I do have a cause. It's called the United States Marine Corps. I actually do something. I am here to fight so that the people of our great nation can put up street spam if they feel like it. People like me, my dad, and his dad fight for your freedoms and you guys bitch and complaing about everything and try to get laws made so that people can't enjoy their freedoms. Way to go. Keep working against the people that are dying for you!

>LAST EDITED ON 09-10-02
>AT 09:41 AM (CDT)
>
>I do have a cause. It's called the United States
>Marine Corps. I actually do something. I am
>here to fight so that the people of our great
>nation can put up street spam if they feel like
>it. People like me, my dad, and his dad
>fight for your freedoms and you guys bitch and complaing
>about everything and try to get laws made so that
>people can't enjoy their freedoms. Way to go. Keep
>working against the people that are dying for you!

Interesting. I thought our armed forces started out so our country could be free from rule by an oppressive kingdom that didn't give us representation. I thought our armed forces were there to fight against attacks from foreign nations, to fight against the threat of communism, and to keep the peace in troubled countries. I thought our armed forces were fighting for the right to preserve the American democratic system and to ensure the rule of law, as passed by a representative democracy.

So now I find out that our armed forces have really been fighting for the right to put up signs saying "WORK FROM HOME" or "I BUY HOUSES" or "LAWNS LEVELED - FRESH, ORGANIC DIRT". I think I'm going to find the school teachers who taught my American history and ask them to do a little bit of explaining. I'll even go back and find the producers of "Schoolhouse Rock" and have them explain to me why "I'm Just A Bill" doesn't really hold true.

LAST EDITED ON 09-10-02 AT 10:25 AM (CDT)

Oh my god! Elkman, please stop talking. You are making yourself sound like a complete moron. I am embarrassed for you. Do you not pay attention at all. We fight for FREEDOM! That's freedom in all forms. This website and your organization is based on the subject of street spam. Therefore, I used the freedom of speech (posting advertisements) as an example. PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT UP STREET ADVERTISEMENTS AS THEY WISH!!! It's that simple. It's whiny little geeks like you who make it so they cannot. Why? Because it doesn't look as pretty as you would like. Oh poor Elkman!!! You know, when I shoot someone in the face it isn't pretty either. But, you will support me and our military any time we go and kill people. Why? Because you don't have to see it. I feel sorry that your life is so empty that all you care about is street spam. Did your wife leave you? Do you need a hobby that bad? I don't understand why you people would be so against people advertising on a street corner. I have a problem with that because street advertising was legitimate until whiny bastards like you went and made it illegal. Even law enforcement lets it happen. Why? Because there is really nothing wrong with it and everyone knows it. You guys simply have nothing better to do! It's people like you that waste our tax dollars on frivolous lawsuits. I bet you people actually have the balls to whine until someone gets fined for putting up a street ad too. Taking money out of their kid's mouth while you drive your kids to soccer practice in your gas guzzling SUV. You people make me sick!

Hey Ruby, are you going to shoot me as I remove illegal signs as directed by the City and City Council for which I am employed? Just wondering as I look over my shoulder for you. Thanks for your input.

Haha. No. No one is going to get shot...hopefully.
Everyone, please read this carefully. This is a list of facts that I have compiled from my discussions on this forum.

*I do not and have not (ever) put up ANY street advertisements.
*I noticed this website being advertised on a street advertisement.
*This website is against the street advertisements that they use.
*There is no reason for street advertisements to be illegal.
*Street advertisements were made illegal by people like this organization because they do not like the way they look.
*This organization cannot give a good reason why they are against street advertisements other than they don't look pretty.
*Street advertisements do not hurt anybody and keep people informed on many subjects.
*Street advertisements help our economy by boosting a sales market and assisting with cheap advertisements.
*I do not agree with this organizations views and it would see the majority of American's also disagree or are neutral on the subject.
*The people who work for/run/support this organization are, for some reason, forced to find a mediocre past time and have an authority complex.
*Creating a law banning street advertisements is a clear violation of every American's constitutional right to free speech.
*No one on this forum has yet to give me a GOOD reason to make street advertising illegal.
*MOST of the people that support this organization by replying to inquiries on this forum do not believe in their cause enough to answer people's questions.
*There is no point for a forum is you do not plan to discuss your views with people who are visiting your site.
*If this sort of street advertising is illegal, then posting CAUSS.org advertisements falls under the same category and this organization should turn themselves in if they actually believe in their cause.

Anyone else have anything to add before we escort this gentleperson back to the zoo?
We want to make darn sure that we don't violate "His/Her" First Amendment Rights".

"Semper Fi"

GreatWhite-BH (GW)
Texas Chapter - CAUSS

GW

Hey look everyone. Still no answers to questions from a concerned citizen. No justification of this cause. Just insults by the third grade minds that run this organization.

--Just squattin' over my keyboard again--

GreatWhite,

Ruby was cute at first, but I've since lost interest.

And shouldn't this person be scrubbing a latrine or something?

In the interest of national security, it would be best not to further distract this soldier from his or her burdensome duties in Thornton, Colorado.

Our nation, afterall, is on heightened alert.

--Art

>Ruby was cute at first, but
>I've since lost interest.
>
>And shouldn't this person be scrubbing
>a latrine or something?
>
>In the interest of national security,
>it would be best not
>to further distract this soldier
>from his or her burdensome
>duties in Thornton, Colorado.
>
>Our nation, afterall, is on heightened
>alert.


Art, I do think you're right. Therefore, this thread is now locked and the discussion is now closed.

One final note on Ruby's recent laundry list of points: street spam is illegal. If one does not like the law, then they should work within our democracy to change the law. Whining here about it won't do much good.

Happy sharking,

DenverShark
moderator