Newest Way to Wealth (a major herbalife upline) has the following little gem posted on their "cashmailbox" website as part of their "marketing plans".

Note carefully that distributors are instructed to offer the following: Enter Drawing for a FREE WEIGHT LOSS PROGRAM!

However, the distributors are not told to actually conduct a drawing, nor to actually award anything!

Where I come from, this is known as fraud, and it's illegal.

Sharks, it doesn't matter that Herbalife has banned the signs. NWTW will figure other ways to spam us, and these ways will be just as illegal and obnoxious as the signs. These people have no morals.

Herbalife, if you're reading this, listen: you must excise the NWTW cancer before it consumes you.

Redstone

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Raffle Box: Wrap several boxes like you would a present; cut a slit in the top of the box so people can drop their entries in. Decorate the box so that it catches peoples attention and put a written message on the side that says: Register Here for a FREE Weight Loss Sample or Enter Drawing for a FREE WEIGHT LOSS PROGRAM! Place these boxes at Beauty Shops, Grocery Stores, Individually owned Department Stores. Place Anywhere you can get permission from the owner. Beauty Shops are great!! Take these to places on Friday and Pick up on the following Thursday. Empty and take back out on Friday again.
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You know, this is interesting, but is it important to CAUSS?

If people want to wrap up boxes and put them in beauty shops with the permission of the owner, more power to 'em! If it's fraudulant and bad for Herbalife, so what? We're not Herbalife's watchdogs.

Now these new 'advertising methods' that involve scattering calling cards? Those are pretty awful. I expect to see clothing stores and banks fighting back. I don't think it will last long enough to need a vigilante solution, though. The private companies will do our job for us this time.

I think uglylitter has a point here. If a business owner has a box on their counter, that seems OK to me. I suspect everyone who enters the drawing "wins" a free sample of Herba product so I don't think there would be much of fraud issue.

Newbie

Newbie (not)

NWTW promotes distributorships primarily and the actual herbalife products secondarily. The entire NWTW m.o. is MONEY.

I seriously doubt they're actually planning on sending sample product to any person who leaves their business car or some other form of contact information in those boxes. They would make no money at all if they sent product to ALL the "entrants", and they know (and have indirectly indicated) that they're not obligated to send sample product to anyone at all.

If the "drawing" was to send sample product to a randomly selected, single individual who's left his/her name and number in that box, what's to stop them from simply saying they've found a winner, that nobody's heard of before, and who never actually left their name/number in one of those boxes? Absolutely nothing.

Judging from NWTW's track record, they're doing this to get potential targets for spam to acquire downlines. Whether it's via email, postal, or by phone, all they're trying to do is find more people to sucker into making "the investment".

Instead of throwing spam all over the place and HOPING someone will respond to it, they're very likely just using this method to find DIRECT targets for the same. People who, by leaving their name/number/etc, have indicated an interest. It's slightly less annoying to the general public, but probably more effective in finding people to defraud later.

Evil of a different color is still evil.

Sorry if I seemed to be getting a little redundant there, but I have strong feelings about what they're doing.

-Felix de Gato

I hear there's a website down the road that's concerned with preventing NWTW/Herbalife fraud. CAUSS is here to prevent businesses from covering the planet with signs.

They can't ignore selling the product. If nothing else, distributors must buy the product out of their pocket and if they have no customers they have nothing else to do with it other than give it away.

Newbie

Newbie (not)

uglylitter: agreed, but there's always room for off-topic rants

newbie: what you just described is exactly what happens to a majority of their bottom-feeders.

It really is too bad that this newest way to wealth organization had to come and ruin a company that I like. The real key to success in direct selling is actually selling the product instead of these BS "recruiting" systems. Look at Mary Kay or Avon, they conduct their business the way a direct selling company should, where selling the product is the most important thing to the distributors success. That is what Herbalife was founded on but unfortunately due to greed they have lost sight of what they were originally about. Although that does seem to be changeing(slowly) with the new executive that makes sure distributors follow the rules.

So much of the street spam was caused by Herbalife and Newest way to wealth that this forum should be renamed "CAUSFNWTW".

Thanks for the info.