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RedstoneThu Nov-15-01 10:48 AM
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"MLM instructions: spam everyone, everywhere"


          

LAST EDITED ON 11-15-01 AT 12:58 PM (CST)

Following are some selected "marketing" instructions from an MLM site (http://www.newestway.com/resources/Online/adverts.htm) that I saw this morning, with my commentary.

These people are disgusting.

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WORK FROM HOME SIGNS/POSTERS
To become successful, exposure is mandatory. Whether you are working the Business full time or part time, consistently put out 30 signs a week for 90 days (this amounts to 5 signs a day). You may want to start with an order of 60 signs to develop your routine of distributing signs.
For extremely quick results double or triple your efforts for sign hanging. Or Devote one day a week to the "beefed up" effort.
If time is a factor, or you are unable to leave home yourself to hang the signs, you may consider hiring a neighborhood kid to help you. Try to get the signs high to avoid being torn down.
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Gee, how come no mention of WHY the signs get torn down? And it's too bad they don't mention how expensive this can become, according to the following formula: (5 signs x 90 days) x ($1.50 per sign) + (1 shark) = $675.00 wasted.

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Best places to put "pull tab" posters: Telephone poles Vending machines - use tape across the top of the pull-tab and stack the fliers on top of each other. When you come to a group of vending machines or phone booths then tear one off keeping the tape on top and place it where it will be seen
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What, no mention of the fact that vending machines and phone booths belong to someone else? Isn't there a name for using someone else's property without their permission. I think is's "appropriation to chattels" or something like that. (Any help from out there?) It's illegal, anyway.

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Bulletin boards - almost every building has one somewhere. Colleges are a great place for work from home online pull-tabs because they have international contacts and FREE access to email and computers.
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Again, someone elses' property. Those bulletin boards were likely NOT put up with the aim of providing free advertising to MLMs.

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Favorite targets for cards:
CARS---best target!! Put the cards on the driver's side door above the door handle between the rubber and the glass. One card per car is sufficient. The best places to find a collection of cars and people who need extra money or a better job are colleges, shopping malls, strip shopping centers or plazas, office buildings, commuter and subway parking areas.
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Most of the places listed specifically prohibit this kind of activity. And these "teachers" ought to mention that there are an AWFUL lot of folks out there who wouldn't be real happy to walk out of a store and see a stranger touching their car.

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FREE PUBLICATIONS RACK---When you are out doing your daily shopping, etc., visit the free publication rack and insert cards/flyers in the Employment papers, Homes for sale, Thrifty Nickel, For Rent, and any other free publication that looks appropriate.
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Now THERE'S a great way to end up in court!

Don't these idiots understand that just because the newspaper is distributed for free, that DOES NOT mean that you can use it as a free distribution vehicle for your spam?

Earth to MLM people: Newspapers CHARGE MONEY for inserts!

Free newpapers, vending machines, phone booths, telephone poles, and other people's cars ARE NOT YOUR PROPERTY and you nave NO right to use them without the owner's permission.

But I guess if you give stupid advice to stupid people, they'll stupidly follow it.

Sigh.

Redstone

  

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ElkmanThu Nov-15-01 03:20 PM
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>Following are some selected "marketing" instructions
>from an MLM site (http://www.newestway.com/resources/Online/adverts.htm)
>that I saw this morning,
>with my commentary.
>
>These people are disgusting.
>
>-------------------------
> WORK FROM HOME SIGNS/POSTERS
> To become successful, exposure is mandatory. Whether you are working
>the Business full time or part time, consistently put out
>30 signs a week for 90 days (this amounts to
>5 signs a day). You may want to start with
>an order of 60 signs to develop your routine of
>distributing signs. For extremely quick results double
>or triple your efforts for sign hanging. Or Devote one
>day a week to the "beefed up" effort.
> If time is a factor, or you are unable to
>leave home yourself to hang the signs, you may consider
>hiring a neighborhood kid to help you. Try to get
>the signs high to avoid being torn down.
>-------------------------
>
>Gee, how come no mention of WHY the signs get torn
>down? And it's too bad they don't mention how expensive
>this can become, according to the following formula: (5 signs
>x 90 days) x ($1.50 per sign) + (1 shark) = $675.00 wasted.

I guess this explains why I saw SIX signs posted along a half-mile section of freeway fence on the north side of a highway. I guess this particular MLMer thought that EVERYONE in the neighborhood wanted to work from home.

(Of course, given this particular suburb (Richfield, MN), it's probably the next neighborhood that's going to get bulldozed and redeveloped as a big corporate perk, but that's just reckless speculation on my part.)

"Hire a neighborhood kid to help you" == "get those kids started on a selfish life of crime".

>--------------------------
> Best places to put "pull tab" posters: Telephone poles Vending
>machines - use tape across the top of the pull-tab
>and stack the fliers on top of each other.
>When you come to a group of vending machines or
>phone booths then tear one off keeping the tape on
>top and place it where it will be seen
>--------------------------
>
>What, no mention of the fact that vending machines and phone
>booths belong to someone else? Isn't there a name for
>using someone else's property without their permission. I think is's
>"appropriation to chattels" or something like that. (Any help from out there?) It's illegal, anyway.

But according to the MLMers, it's "one of those useless laws that no one cares about any more." Then again, I saw a "work from home" sign zip-tied to a pay phone post last night. It's gone now.

>--------------------------
> Bulletin boards - almost every building has one somewhere.
> Colleges are a great place for work from home
>online pull-tabs because they have international contacts and FREE access
>to email and computers.
>--------------------------
>
>Again, someone elses' property. Those bulletin boards were likely NOT put
>up with the aim of providing free advertising to MLMs.

I think I've seen this sort of thing in supermarket entrances. On the other hand, unless there's a specific law against posting these ads, or unless the store/building manager prohibits such ads, I'd leave them alone.

>--------------------------
> Favorite targets for cards:
>
> CARS---best target!! Put the cards on the driver's side door
>above the door handle between the rubber and the glass.
>One card per car is sufficient. The best places to
>find a collection of cars and people who need extra
>money or a better job are colleges, shopping malls, strip
>shopping centers or plazas, office buildings, commuter and subway parking areas.
>--------------------------
>
>Most of the places listed specifically prohibit this kind of activity.
>And these "teachers" ought to mention that there are an
>AWFUL lot of folks out there who wouldn't be real
>happy to walk out of a store and see a
>stranger touching their car.

Fortunately, my driver's side door neither has rubber nor glass. It's a Jeep with a soft top, and the window zips down. Of course, they could always stick it under the windshield wiper so I'm not totally immune. Regardless, I think this falls under the policies of most shopping centers prohibiting soliciting or distribution of literature on their property.

>-------------------------
> FREE PUBLICATIONS RACK---When you are out doing your daily shopping, etc., visit the free publication
>rack and insert cards/flyers in the Employment papers, Homes for
>sale, Thrifty Nickel, For Rent, and any other free publication
>that looks appropriate.
>-------------------------
>
>Now THERE'S a great way to end up in court!
>
>Don't these idiots understand that just
>because the newspaper is distributed
>for free, that DOES NOT mean that you can use
>it as a free distribution vehicle for your spam?
>
>Earth to MLM people: Newspapers CHARGE MONEY for inserts!

True. And maybe these MLMers should spread some of their wealth and actually take out an ad in the papers. (Of course, many do, and find that their ads don't get read. Gee, ever hear of "market saturation"?)

>Free newpapers, vending machines, phone booths,
>telephone poles, and other people's
>cars ARE NOT YOUR PROPERTY
>and you nave NO right
>to use them without the
>owner's permission.
>
>But I guess if you give
>stupid advice to stupid people,
>they'll stupidly follow it.

Fortunately, most people have seen enough of these advertising methods and either know that they're too good to be true, or just assume it's a scam because they see so many of these signs. Unfortunately, there's a few suckers who want to believe that they can make money perpetuating the scheme.

>Sigh.
>
>Redstone



  

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GreatWhite-BHThu Nov-15-01 04:54 PM
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Talking about two guys getting in the loop like fast!

It likely took the orginal group working together almost a year to put all this information in useful order on what their MO is.

This is the kind of information that brings to light what "idiots" we're dealing with. Good work, excellent info.

You're likely to see an on going barage in the Colorado Forum in the coming days as those sharks hit the spammers where it hurts.

The MLM'er make it sound like fishing or hunting, run your traps every day and re-bait when necessary or required.

GreatWhite-BH (GW)
No.Texas Chapter - CAUSS
signbuster@aol.com

GW

  

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RedstoneThu Nov-15-01 06:04 PM
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>This is the kind of information that brings to light what idiots" we're dealing with. Good work, excellent info.
>
Hey, thanks for the compliment, GW. Good to know I'm being helpful.

I've been thinking on this, and you know what? I believe I'll just dime these people out to Coca-Cola and Pepsi (for starts).

How do you suppose they would like knowing that Herbalife (whether "officially" or not) is encouraging people to use Coke's property (the vending machines) for free advertising?

Remember one of the trolls recently issuing some vague threats to us about "Herbalife's Legal Department?" That would let us see what they're really made of - NOBODY has lawyers like Coca-Cola has lawyers.

In fact, as soon as I can get contact information for Coke and Pepsi's legal eagles, I'll post it here. Then, as sharks see vending-machine spam, they can burn the individual spammers to Coke or whoever owns the specific machine. These are big corporations, but a couple dozen messages from concerned citizens ought to get their attention.

This should be fun. Stay tuned.

Redstone

PS to MLM trolls: You can save your breath, indignant-amateur-attorney-wise. Using exerpts from the website of these "MLM trainers" is specifically allowed as fair use (for the purpose of criticism) under U.S. copyright law. I'm kind of an expert on this, so trust me and don't waste your time.

  

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tigersharkFri Nov-16-01 09:56 PM
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This particular MLM'er mentioned Thrifty Nickel. Well, I've got news for them regarding Thrifty Nickel, and hopefully other free paper publishers.

In Utah, at least, Thrifty Nickel may well go after these types if they actually put fliers IN the Thrifty Nickel papers themselves or in the baskets along with the papers. Just let them know and show them the evidence. Contact any other free paper/flier publisher that you find these things in as well.

BTW: Thrifty Nickel does have a website, it's http://www.thriftynickel.com/ . Maybe someone could alert them to this particular problem up front if possible.

  

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RedstoneSat Nov-17-01 06:44 AM
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>This particular MLM'er mentioned Thrifty Nickel.
> Well, I've got news
>for them regarding Thrifty Nickel,
>and hopefully other free paper
>publishers.
>
>In Utah, at least, Thrifty Nickel
>may well go after these
>types if they actually put
>fliers IN the Thrifty Nickel
>papers themselves or in the
>baskets along with the papers.
> Just let them know
>and show them the evidence.
> Contact any other free
>paper/flier publisher that you find
>these things in as well.
>
>
>BTW: Thrifty Nickel does have
>a website, it's http://www.thriftynickel.com/ .
> Maybe someone could alert
>them to this particular problem
>up front if possible.
>

Done. There may be some unpleasant surprises in store for "piggybackers."


  

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