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ElkmanThu Oct-04-01 10:47 PM
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"Spammers admit their signs are cheap and tacky"


          

Check this out:
http://www.fortunenow.com/Reports/Road_Signs.htm

The very first sentence is: "How to use cheap, tacky, home-made signs to earn fast profits in your network marketing business." Apparently, in Houston it only costs $220 to print up 100 signs, plus another $1 per sign to have them installed. His "local source" told him that the signs were technically illegal but "no one ever complains".

It's an interesting look into the mindset of people who post this street spam, as well as the economics involved. Apparently, the guy only signed up seven customers, but he made nearly $1200 in commissions. I don't even know what kind of product or service he's selling, but his customers probably don't realize they're being fleeced.

  

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GreatWhite-BHFri Oct-05-01 06:33 AM
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#1. "RE: Spammers admit their signs are cheap and tacky"
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>> Apparently, in Houston it only costs $220 to print up 100 signs, plus another $1 per sign to have them installed. His "local source" told him that the signs were technically illegal but "no one ever complains".>>

I have personally particiapted in a Bandit Sign Cleanup Campaign in Houston and for anyone to say that no one ever complains is simply not true. There are numerous groups not only complaining but doing something about it.

According to Houston CE statistics, the bandit sign clean up teams removed well over 200,000 signs last year and it appears the numbers will be about the same for `01.
The number of fines collected well supports the "especially equipped" caged, one ton trucks, with no problem.

>>It's an interesting look into the mindset of people who post
this street spam, as well as the economics involved. Apparently, the guy only signed up seven customers, but he made nearly $1200 in commissions. I don't even know what kind of product or service he's selling, but his customers probably don't realize they're being fleeced.>>

The mindset as you refer is well explained in the movie "Urban Cowboy" from the early 80's. It's this mentality that has gone unchecked until recently and it's in epidemic proportions.

The commissions are according to "that one person". It's this type of embellished numbers that bring out all the wannabees, thinking they can get rich in their PJ's while sleeping. It's this mindset that keep the MLM/Ponzi schemes alive.

However, on a more positive note. It's definately becoming better as groups organize and are assisted by county deputy sherifs and constables in their weekend cleanup efforts.

GreatWhite-BH (GW)
No.Texas Chapter - CAUSS
signbuster@aol.com

GW

  

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RedstoneSat Oct-06-01 07:26 PM
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#2. "RE: Spammers admit their signs are cheap and tacky"
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>Check this out:
>http://www.fortunenow.com/Reports/Road_Signs.htm

I wish I had not eaten dinner before I saw this page.
>
>The very first sentence is: "How
>to use cheap, tacky, home-made
>signs to earn fast profits
>in your network marketing business."
> Apparently, in Houston it
>only costs $220 to print
>up 100 signs, plus another
>$1 per sign to have
>them installed.
If he had put the signs in my town, he might as well have lit a match to the $320.00, because the signs would have been gone the next morning. I suspect this would be the case in many towns where members of this group live.
His "local
>source" told him that the
>signs were technically illegal but
>"no one ever complains".
Well, OF COURSE the sign printer is going to tell him that! He wants to sell signs, doesn't he?
>
>It's an interesting look into the
>mindset of people who post
>this street spam, as well
>as the economics involved.
>Apparently, the guy only signed
>up seven customers, but he
>made nearly $1200 in commissions.
What on earth makes you think this claim is true? Look at the source!
> I don't even know
>what kind of product or
>service he's selling, but his
>customers probably don't realize they're
>being fleeced.
Not that I want to offend anyone who is part of the anti-sign effort, but I have to ask again: What makes you think that EVEN ONE WORD of this "testimonial" is true?

These dirtbags make a living from selling "get rich quick" dreams to people who are, well clueless. The clueless are not just at the level of those who call the numbers on the signs, they're also up one level - the ones who are dumb enough to believe this kind of nonsense and think that THEY can make money easily as well, just because this clown claimed that HE did.

Too bad we can't think of a way to discredit people like this.

Redstone



  

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ElkmanSat Oct-06-01 10:21 PM
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#3. "RE: Spammers admit their signs are cheap and tacky"
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>>Check this out:
>>http://www.fortunenow.com/Reports/Road_Signs.htm
>
>I wish I had not eaten
>dinner before I saw this
>page.

Heh heh.

> His "local
>>source" told him that the
>>signs were technically illegal but
>>"no one ever complains".
>Well, OF COURSE the sign printer
>is going to tell him
>that! He wants to sell
>signs, doesn't he?
>>
>>It's an interesting look into the
>>mindset of people who post
>>this street spam, as well
>>as the economics involved.
>>Apparently, the guy only signed
>>up seven customers, but he
>>made nearly $1200 in commissions.
>What on earth makes you think
>this claim is true? Look
>at the source!

Yeah, I have a problem believing this claim too. I'm not an expert in m*lti-l*vel m*rketing, but it seems like his seven customers must be buying hundreds or even thousands of dollars of products in order for him to get that much in commission. He claims that it's all possible because he's at the top of his company's pay plan -- but he doesn't name the company, or give any reasons why his time and effort are more richly rewarded than the suckers at the bottom of the pyramid.

>> I don't even know
>>what kind of product or
>>service he's selling, but his
>>customers probably don't realize they're
>>being fleeced.
>Not that I want to offend
>anyone who is part of
>the anti-sign effort, but I
>have to ask again: What
>makes you think that EVEN
>ONE WORD of this "testimonial"
>is true?

Oh, I believe the part where he had 100 signs printed up and paid them to hang the signs for him. I also believe the part where he rented a voice mailbox, took calls, and sent out informational packets. But the numbers are extremely suspicious, and I really wonder how many of his 100 signs were still standing at the end of the month.

>These dirtbags make a living from
>selling "get rich quick" dreams
>to people who are, well
>clueless. The clueless are not
>just at the level of
>those who call the numbers
>on the signs, they're also
>up one level - the
>ones who are dumb enough
>to believe this kind of
>nonsense and think that THEY
>can make money easily as
>well, just because this clown
>claimed that HE did.
>
>Too bad we can't think of
>a way to discredit people
>like this.
>
>Redstone

I think there's enough information out there to discredit the whole m*lti-l*vel m*rketing phenomenon. The trouble is that some people are gullible enough to believe that they can make money doing it. Somehow, people lose their ability to "smell a rat" when they see promises of great wealth, easy living, and the ability to work from home. Sure, the people at the top can flaunt their wealth -- they can thank the thousands of people at the bottom of the pyramid who joined, tried it for a month or two, and discovered that it just didn't pay off.

http://www.vandruff.com/mlm.html gives a very good explanation of why m*lti-l*vel m*rketing is doomed to failure.

  

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ChoderusThu Oct-11-01 04:10 AM
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#4. "RE: Spammers admit their signs are cheap and tacky"
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Thomas Martin Schreiter (wife--Susan Blas Schreiter)
3910 Village Corner Dr
Houston, Tx 77059
281-218-0002

The phone number on the site:
281-280-9800
Kaas Publishing
917 Oakgrove
Houston, Tx 77058

I'm going to be in Houston this weekend, unfortunately with family for a wedding. I'd sure like to go tell Tom that some people *do* have a problem with his cheap signs.

  

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