#1. "RE: Clark County CE hard at it." In response to Reply # 0
I need to file more complaint forms instead of removing so much on the other side of the 215, the north side.
Good to see the department is still at it. I'm seeing the streets looking good where I seldom remove, but the same carpet guy is hitting the northside of the 215, as well as his fellow spamkies.
These spamkies are the same guys who do most of the spamming in this town, year after year, and I'm sure in the same area Code was hitting hard.
Well just last week, I got more of the same carpet spam I remove every week, but this time it was within minutes of going up. The same ones in the carpet forum 272-8369. My spies told me I just missed him on his moped.
#2. "RE: Clark County CE hard at it." In response to Reply # 1
Pops, A very wise woman once said "If you keep on doin what your doin, you will keep on gettin what you got" Anyone like me who has been removing signs from the very same spammers, year after year, hes got to be frustrated. I have very recently contacted my city councilmen and women from the districts that I usually patrol. There were 3 of them. One got back to me right away and the other 2 have been very quiet so far (and one of them is running for mayor). The one that did get back really liked what they are doing in Houston and tasked the Asst. City manager who is over CE to check into it. She was wonderful enough to liken the signs to graffiti. That may not seem like much but Dallas has had several big public efforts to get rid of graffiti. I showed them a recent conversation between myself and a CE officer. They are also very frustrated because "the same signs are just put back up the next day". WOW. This really ticked off the Asst city manager. Maybe, just maybe, I have begun something that will be followed up on. If the city, and DA, will go after the spammers, as they CAN. It would be money in the city coffers from fines and cleaner streets at the same time. We all win. Of course, if the spammers (mostly real estate scammers) also contribute to mayoral campaigns,,,,,hmmm. Lets take the fight to the spammers. In the Flickr picture group I created I added pictures of signs. I include location, and ownership(easily found from state real estate commission licensing board, with some google help). It makes it very hard for CE's, even reluctant ones, to ignore it all with a councilman eager to get rid of graffiti. Betty
>Great!! > >I need to file more complaint forms instead of removing so >much on the other side of the 215, the north side. > >Good to see the department is still at it. I'm seeing the >streets looking good where I seldom remove, but the same >carpet guy is hitting the northside of the 215, as well as his >fellow spamkies. > >These spamkies are the same guys who do most of the spamming >in this town, year after year, and I'm sure in the same area >Code was hitting hard. > >Well just last week, I got more of the same carpet spam I >remove every week, but this time it was within minutes of >going up. The same ones in the carpet forum 272-8369. My spies >told me I just missed him on his moped. > >But I'll be back. > >Terminator > >
#3. "RE: Clark County CE hard at it." In response to Reply # 2
Thanks Dallas Gal for the information and the help it would take to get this repeat offender.
Its almost a testimonial to my effort and the results I get from our County Code officials.
Let me start by saying they County Commisioner for Clark County, Rory Reid did respond to my letters back in 2008. Of course they never got me involved in there efforts but they did respond with frequent removal.
I can say they did a great job. Notice I said did.
Now its clear the same spammers are still at it as well as some new who might very well be connected to the same old ones. Also the same Carpet Spammers are still at it in some neighborhoods. Nevada Forum 2008-2011. Some are still spamming.
Though now the signage is smaller and not attached to telephone poles, but instead to direction signs by zipp ties on cardboard, and electric street corner utility boxes with tape. A new method to the spamming has popped up. Its as if Code gave them the green light to continue in this way.
Its these same spammers who been getting away with it for years still continue and I don't get any return calls from the Code office.
I called the Code Enforcers direct line and left three messages, alway commending on the clean up they done in the last two years, but the need to finish off the spammers.
#4. "RE: Clark County CE hard at it." In response to Reply # 3
That sounds so familiar. I was reporting, reporting, and re-reporting and the best I ever got was, they would get to it within a week. That was when I got anything. So, I finally decided to go after their bosses, and their bosses. When you get up to the politicals, they seem to care, at least during re-election times. But I will take it as I can get it. Just so you know, I have been driving all of my regular routes for the last 2 weeks and I have seen a total of 5 signs during that time. It seems that all it takes is to get into the pocket of the spammers. When you can get the city CE's to help with that effort, IT WORKS. I do not know how long it will last, but I sure am enjoying it now. If you can convince the city politicals that there is a revenue source to the city/county by fining these spammers they seem to get interested fast. Good luck, Betty
#5. "RE: Clark County CE hard at it." In response to Reply # 4
Wow 5 sgins in what I'm sure is a few sq. miles I think that is a big improvement. I wonder if they remove and fine or just remove more often to achieve so few signage.
To go back a couple years, our Code set up a special sign remvoal task force. I reported more often then since I wanted to see if they removed and they did. Then some spam would totally disappear. May be fines were giving , or they were warned not to continue spamming. It seemed to work, because the same signage that was always poping up on a regular basis seemed to totally disappear.
But now a couple years later I'm seeing the same signage that is popping up again. Either the spmmers are testing the waters or Code has just conceded the fight. In the two conversations with Code in the past two years, they always were going to go after them spammers with fines and removal teams. Funds they were using to remove signage dried up in Feb 2010.It was O Bamma stimulus money back then. Now I think the office is back to two people. I don't think they like to remove on a daily basis.
The streets are a lot cleaner, but a few neigborhoods are getting repeat offenders almost immediately after I remove their signage. T I have plenty of information to provide to Code for any fines they would fine them, I got it on film and on this forum. Some of the spam popping up is from the days of the task force. It is these chronic spammers who are still getting away with spamming year after year. I would think the Code office would reconize the problem from repeat offenders if they read this forum like they said they do, or anwser any violation form I fill out.
I have residents address, there friends addresses, and the different vehicles putting up the illegal signage. It is a network of spammers not one guy tring to make money with illegal advertising. If they don't understand the problem I don't think they are capable of any solution.
Like I said they are never going see these guys go away until they wnat to fine them and drag them into court.
Code asked me to put on this site that there is a $200 fine for each sign and if they can trace more signage back to them, they would add them on too. The problem is spammers don't know about this site, I think a Code Officer could easily call the number on the sign and state a fine will be issued if I have to start coming after you for all your illegal signage around town.
#6. "RE: Clark County CE hard at it." In response to Reply # 5
Pops, You efforts are great and I can hear the frustration. I have had the same feelings. It was near miraculous when I saw actual results. As an example of how great the total of 5 was, the previous week I,, ruined,, 83 signs on the same roads. I had been fighting with the same folks, mainly real estate scammers for years. When the Super Bowl came here I saw the head CE on tv on several channels talking up their increased enforcement to clear the streets for all the tourists. All of a sudden, for 2-3 weeks there was no new signs. I thought to myself, if they can do it for a couple weeks, all they need is a little more reason to do it from now on. After the Super Bowl, the mass of signs began again worse than ever. I had been told, over time, several different stories by CE's as to why they either couldn't or wouldn't do anything, but now I had proof that they could. So I went to the CE's again and the stories continued. I went to their boss. I was told more than one story of why it was so hard to do. So I went to the city council members (who need to be reelected) of which I was in their districts. BINGO. They called in the city assistant manager who was in charge of CE. They explained that they counted street spam on the same level as graffiti. They also saw that there was money to be brought into the city coffers without doing much other than what was already their jobs. I have received word from a representative CE guy in the last week that "Our inspectors are doing pulling signs, issuing notice of violations, and citations daily." It does seem to be working. I have learned that it will be impossible for me to affect the spammers. I needed help from the city, or I could just give up or I could just keep doing what I was doing. So I happened to find the correct buttons to push. At least for now. Betty
#7. "RE: Clark County CE hard at it." In response to Reply # 6 Thu Mar-24-11 08:29 AM by pops
Interesting you getting the City Manager involved thats pretty high up. Our rep at the top was County Commisioner Rory Reid son of recent majority leader of the Senate Harry Reid, quote "the war is lost", remember that guy, he's his son.
Enough politics, he did get something done by assigning a guy to go after the signage problems here. Not sure if he's the level of City Manager, but a separate force was assembled. It made a big difference over the last two years. I can't complain, now the signage problem is confined to a couple of carpet companies not working together, but separately, and doing most of the spamming here on a regular basis. It used to be more companies like theirs hitting all areas of town on a weekly, monthly schedule. You know how fast they can turn a city into trash at that rate.
We also have some of the old spammers hitting a few blocks in their own neighborhoods, but not the whole town as before.
I wish Code could stop these few violators along with the two carpet spammers trashing whole sections of town. If Code will continue doing what they did to get this city clean, thay willl have knocked out our signage problem once and for all.